Prime Partners Activity Policy

**Roulette Zeitung** · 23 August 2017, 1:09 pm

"we are not doing it to hurt the affiliate or anything just to motivate him to send traffic again"

No, of course not.
No, it does not hurt the affiliates, when they will paid at once like a street corner nickel hooker.
No, they are so happy. They believe, they are landed in the heaven.

To be honest: This pressure = motivation fallacy came from Multi Level Marketing bullies and is only psychological warfare in business.

Only a reckless racketeer or a complete idiot has the dubious courage to hang a sign around his neck with the slogan "Prime Partners: 97.5 % for us - 2,5% for you, and it does not hurt you"

Fantastic promotion.

The truth is: Your wallets are a little bit unstable, and so the future interest is focused on big affiliates. Small affiliates will be eviscerated like a Christmas roast.
At least they will leave your company with happiness and singing wonderful bard songs about you.

Merry Christmas, Prime Partners.

Leopold

**eenzoo** · 23 August 2017, 2:02 pm

Guys, thanks for your step into the breach! Appreciate it!

@Aviv - yes, i´m a smaller affiliate. I deliver 50 -70 FTD each month to trusted partners! And i grow!
yes, you´re right, this year you got 29 Signups and 3 FTD´s only. Deposits are about 3000€

You could not expect that this move motivate me to send more traffic? You call me not active?! I could ask you how about the 26 interested signups you could not convert? My fold? Yours?

Dosen´t matter. I´m fine with your T&C - seriously i´m not interested in a good partnership, but you right?

I´m super happy about other operators like Casumo, Cherry, Cruise, Royal Panda, Bitstarz, Full Cream and a lot more they are really interested to play that game in a good manner. With my amount of new players i´m not able to make all immediately happy, but in the long run i´m sure , the responsive and fair operators are much more happy with his affiliates like cheater like you (yes of course i know, its not cheating its T&C )!

**allfreechips** · 23 August 2017, 2:06 pm

50-70 FTD's your a bit more than a small affiliate BTW..

**Triple7** · 23 August 2017, 2:29 pm

Originally Posted by Prime Partners

it is not a life time deal...

What then?

I see at the Prime Partners-page you're advertizing with 25% up to 50%. I suppose we receive rev. share as long as the players are playing.

25% up to 50%
Revenue Share
NO NEGATIVE CARRYOVER

**Former Member 14** · 23 August 2017, 2:47 pm

Has all the markings of a Tel Aviv crap hole!

**Topboss** · 23 August 2017, 5:43 pm

I do not agree with a non activity clause period, however in some instances it is the casino itself that is not converting the traffic, so why should the Affiliate be penalized when they are in fact sending the traffic?

Eg On one of my Euro programs this month I have the following stats:

Clicks 1942, Downloads 23, Signups 209, Depositors 3

These are pretty lousy stats to get only 3 depositors out of 209 signups but lets assume I had got No Depositors.
In essence I would be classed as an inactive affiliate for not sending a Depositor, but who would be to blame in this scenario?

Me or the casino for not converting the 209 signups?

The point I am trying to make is that in many cases an Affiliate is actively promoting a brand but simply cannot get a Depositor.

From my experience, and I am not specifically referring to Prime Partners, but many others who apply this non activity clause and use the terminology of non activity purely if the Affiliate has not delivered a Depositor, but they don't take into account the fact that the Affiliate is actually actively promoting them.

**Prime Partners** · 23 August 2017, 9:13 pm

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

"we are not doing it to hurt the affiliate or anything just to motivate him to send traffic again"

No, of course not.
No, it does not hurt the affiliates, when they will paid at once like a street corner nickel hooker.
No, they are so happy. They believe, they are landed in the heaven.

by not hurting the affiliate i meant closing his account for not being active then he needs to go on make new account new links and lose his current RS.... not sending 1 depositor per 3 months is a guy that took you off his site and not promoting you anymore,

and our financial situation is great we have many small affiliates that are super happy, i cannot expect a small affiliate that we lowered his RS to 2.5% to be happy

and again thanks for the input i think i have an idea on how to make this clause more friendlier for both sides

**Prime Partners** · 23 August 2017, 9:15 pm

Originally Posted by Triple7

What then?

I see at the Prime Partners-page you're advertizing with 25% up to 50%. I suppose we receive rev. share as long as the players are playing.

25% up to 50%
Revenue Share
NO NEGATIVE CARRYOVER

this deal is as long as you are active , its a default offer ... show me a casino today that you step in and get RS for life no questions asked?

**Triple7** · 24 August 2017, 2:48 am

Originally Posted by Prime Partners

this deal is as long as you are active , its a default offer ... show me a casino today that you step in and get RS for life no questions asked?

There are plenty of programs without any activity quota.

In your case: 25% up to 50% is not right. It must be 2,5% up to 50%. Even in the T&C it's stated wrong, it says 10% there.

**PromoteCasino** · 24 August 2017, 3:39 am

There are plenty of programs without any activity quota.

In your case: 25% up to 50% is not right. It must be 2,5% up to 50%. Even in the T&C it's stated wrong, it says 10% there.

I missed it first time it does say something like 10% of what you would of earned (should get 25% but no its 10% of that a measly 2.5%).

Not worded right in my opinion and could be easily clarified better by Prime Partners to avoid confusion in the future.

**Prime Partners** · 24 August 2017, 3:44 am

Originally Posted by PromoteCasino

I missed it first time it does say something like 10% of what you would of earned (should get 25% but no its 10% of that a measly 2.5%).

Not worded right in my opinion and could be easily clarified better by Prime Partners to avoid confusion in the future.

Thanks we will review the wording as well

**Roulette Zeitung** · 24 August 2017, 3:49 am

"thanks for the input i think i have an idea on how to make this clause more friendlier for both sides"

I have also an idea. Simply remove it and don't rearrange it. Then you will not lose your reputation, and you will not be mentioned in my lucid diary as the worst quota tormentor of all time, what means, that ...

You have absolutely no benefit from a quota. Quotas are a relict of Stone Age, a backdoor to eviscerate webmasters "legally". To say it straight: Only losers are still using a quota.

And as Triple7 says, if there is not even a term with a 2,5% doomsday quota, then I really don't understand, what you are doing there?

Again: Close that quota trapdoor, and then you will see, how much benefit you also have from happy webmasters, who can freely work, with all their arts on their websites, without pressure. Every quantum physicist will confirm, that there is a connection.

Three options are waiting for you:

A - Convert to a Peter Popoff like company.
B - Beat your webmasters down with quotas from Stone Age, a time, when men with cudgels fought in the cave not for the most beautiful but most hairy women.
B - Don't be a loser, remove that quota and respect your webmaster, even in times, when they are in heavy weather.

Your choice.

Leopold

**Triple7** · 24 August 2017, 4:23 am

Originally Posted by PromoteCasino

I missed it first time it does say something like 10% of what you would of earned (should get 25% but no its 10% of that a measly 2.5%).

Not worded right in my opinion and could be easily clarified better by Prime Partners to avoid confusion in the future.

Yes, you are right. I see it now too. It's 10% of what you would have earned, hence it could be 2,5%.

So the rev. share is not 25% up to 50% but 2,5% up to 50%.

A very crappy term and absolutely no industry standard. Also considering that Prime Partners is not a good converter.

**Toni** · 24 August 2017, 5:57 am

@Prime Partners

I really don't understand the strategy of the activity clause. It's the best negativ viral promotion you can get. You **** of a lot of webmasters who tried everything in term of seo efforts. If they suddenly loose rankings and can't send enough new players to all the programs you steal them 90%
of their earnings.

Will they ever return to your company after you steal them 90% ? Never! They maybe send you a few players to keep the account alive. But they will never send you big numbers again and they well tell everybody that your program sucks (like you can see here on this board).

I promote online casinos since over 10 years now. Some programs started with the activity clause a few years ago. Maybe they saw the fast additional profit, but I'm sure long term those programs will loose a lot. I would never ever promote a program with activity clause anymore. Why ? Because you build a business for someone else and there will come a time when you are not able to send enough anymore because of hundreds of reasons. And then you feel like a not payed *****, believe me.

I had this with one program. Sending them a few hundred players over the years and got reduced to a few % because of the activity clause.

I realy don't understand it. Companies spend tens of thousands for a booth on a convention to attract new affiliates. And then they **** of webmasters with the activity clause.

My advice to you. Be the program who pay "Guaranteed Real Livetime Refshare" even with hand signed contracts (to make it saver for the affiliate). Then buy the top spot here on gpwa and you will be surprised how many new affiliates you will attract!!

P.S. If you pay CPA will you ask affiliates to wire money back if they are not active anymore ?

**vardan** · 24 August 2017, 8:45 am

Originally Posted by Prime Partners

yet again someone that is not active for months .. and sent only a few players ... how should we treat him?

i am really asking since its a discussion here, any constructive thoughts will be helpful for a good decision.

Punish them with your 2,5% or close their accounts....

As many webmasters already have mentioned, you don't know why they don't promote you actively or send enough new players to be happy, may be it could be better to talk with them on this?

Or if you think you're allowed to make any decisions without asking the webmasters' opinions, then I'd offer all those webmasters who now have such problems with this aff program and those who want to avoid having them in the future, to stop their promotion on their websites together. After a month or two they will change the T&C's.

**tal84s** · 24 August 2017, 9:30 am

I think that serious affiliation programs shouldn't threat us and behave to us like they are doing us a favor in letting us to promote them.

Aviv, Have you looked at your conversion rate? Maybe that affiliate have promoted you for a while but haven't received anything for that?

From my experience, fair and good affiliation programs, understand that sometimes affiliates are not active from their reasons, and when they are coming and cut their deal - it's kind of punishment...

Look only at those names of companies which did it also - William Hill, Ladbrokes...

Do you want to make the affiliate active again? Talk to him, try to understand how can you make him sending you players again.

If you will cut his deal and think that with this attitude he will sending you again players, you are so wrong...

**tal84s** · 24 August 2017, 9:37 am

Can you please share with us what is the name of the brand that "converts" your players so impressively? (-:

**agsgroup** · 24 August 2017, 2:45 pm

Absurd @ 2.5%. This is a total turn off for any would be new affiliates reading too..

**sweetbet** · 24 August 2017, 6:18 pm

Originally Posted by agsgroup

Absurd @ 2.5%. This is a total turn off for any would be new affiliates reading too..

Very true!!

**Roulette Zeitung** · 25 August 2017, 3:35 am

Hi Prime Partners,

are you fallen in Sleeping Beauty at once?
My lucid diary readers cannot wait.
I give you time until Wednesday next week to decide, what you will do now with that quota.
The result will be crystal clear:
Liqueur or lashes.
Pralines or pain.

Prime or nothing.

Leopold

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