How old should a site be to start gaining rank?

**hcgroup** · 14 November 2017, 2:10 pm

My top10-casinosites.net is: 1 year 4 months 23 days

and it is still shown as "New site".

My question is that "When will it start to be shown as a "Mature Site"?

Because we all know that "aging" is one of the most important ranking factors.

Thanks in advance.

**elgoog** · 14 November 2017, 4:22 pm

Where is it seen as as "New site" ?
(even if it would show mature now... it has the same age for google)

**hcgroup** · 14 November 2017, 9:08 pm

I can not remember now but. On some of the domain age showing sites.

Can you make it clearer please "(even if it would show mature now... it has the same age for google)"?

Thanks

**wonderpunter** · 15 November 2017, 3:17 am

You can have a 10 year old junk site that will never rank, but Casino 1 year + seems to be the starting point

**elgoog** · 15 November 2017, 9:08 am

Originally Posted by hcgroup

I can not remember now but. On some of the domain age showing sites.

Can you make it clearer please "(even if it would show mature now... it has the same age for google)"?

Thanks

i mean... where ever it says "new site" or "mature site" or whatever
it does not matter what name is given to a website by anyone
only what Google thinks matters

and agree with wonderpunter

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 9:15 am

I see. Thanks a lot. So I should have started gaining ranking for 1 year and 4-month-old site if I am doing the things right. Correct?

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

You can have a 10 year old junk site that will never rank, but Casino 1 year + seems to be the starting point

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 9:17 am

I see. Thanks. So let me ask again shortly?

What does Google think for a 1 year and 4 months old casino reviews site? (if I am accomplishing the correct things to be done of course)

I mean what is the minimum time needed for Google to start taking care of your site as a respected site in terms of aging?

Thanks

Originally Posted by elgoog

i mean... where ever it says "new site" or "mature site" or whatever
it does not matter what name is given to a website by anyone
only what Google thinks matters

and agree with wonderpunter

**elgoog** · 15 November 2017, 9:36 am

You can start ranking with a new website after 2 months, it can also take a year, or you will never rank.
Ranking is only very very litlle depending on the age of a domain.
Ranking is only very very very very very little depending on the registration period.
Don't focus to much on these factors, having a good website, good backlinks etc. is far more important

**Triple7** · 15 November 2017, 9:37 am

Your website is almost a copy of top10casinosites.net. Even some content seem to be kind of re-written.

No idea who's copying who or perhaps it's both one and the same webmaster, but this doesn't seem the way to me.

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 10:06 am

OK I see. Thanks but according to me, these factors also have a percentage of the total ranking factors mixture. More or less. But has an effect.

Once I have watched a video from Matt Cutts stating that Google gives more importance to the long domain expiry dates due to accepting them as long-term investments.

Sounds logical. Right?

That is why I have asked you.

Thanks anyway...

Originally Posted by elgoog

You can start ranking with a new website after 2 months, it can also take a year, or you will never rank.
Ranking is only very very litlle depending on the age of a domain.
Ranking is only very very very very very little depending on the registration period.
Don't focus to much on these factors, having a good website, good backlinks etc. is far more important

**wonderpunter** · 15 November 2017, 10:17 am

Originally Posted by Triple7

Your website is almost a copy of top10casinosites.net. Even some content seem to be kind of re-written.

No idea who's copying who or perhaps it's both one and the same webmaster, but this doesn't seem the way to me.

it does look like the whole site has been ripped off and the articles put through a spinner right? perhaps this is why you are not ranking???

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 1:42 pm

No it is not. Just the theme is identical. All of the customizations are different. Also all of the content is checked by copyscape for uniqueness. And all of the content is 100% unique.

If you analyze the whole site, you will see that this site is better designed in terms of images, content quality etc. Also check the menu system

Ranking is also good for the site but growing slowly. That is why I asked.

Thanks anyway.

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

it does look like the whole site has been ripped off and the articles put through a spinner right? perhaps this is why you are not ranking???

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 1:43 pm

Hello,

Only the theme is identical. All of the content is all unique.

And please kindly note that the site you mentioned has been penalized by Google for placing hidden links to .edu sites for blackhat seo.

If you analyze the sites carefully, you will see that my site is much better than that.

Thanks anyway

Originally Posted by Triple7

Your website is almost a copy of top10casinosites.net. Even some content seem to be kind of re-written.

No idea who's copying who or perhaps it's both one and the same webmaster, but this doesn't seem the way to me.

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 1:47 pm

I never used a spinner for the articles. Only the sources of the news are same. And that site and my site rewrites the same source. All of the articles are written by a human. And all of them are 100% unique.

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

it does look like the whole site has been ripped off and the articles put through a spinner right? perhaps this is why you are not ranking???

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 1:54 pm

One more thing:

Just compare these pages:

https://www.top10casinosites.net/top-10-uk-casino-sites

https://www.top10-casinosites.net/to...k-casino-sites

I have a speaker video. And the other site does not have any.

Think twice, please.Structures can be identical for seo purposes.

This does not mean copying.

Let me repeat myself. All of the content on the site is 100% unique.

Thanks

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

it does look like the whole site has been ripped off and the articles put through a spinner right? perhaps this is why you are not ranking???

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 2:00 pm

Please also check these pages on both sites:

https://www.top10-casinosites.net/turkey

https://www.top10casinosites.net/turkey

Do you still think that this site is a copy of other?

Now I am adding cryptocurrency section which is not present on the other site at all.

Check it out: https://www.top10-casinosites.net/to...itcoin-casinos

Is there any page related to this?

There will be others very soon.

Maybe the other site will follow us...

So let's finalize this dialogue and focus on seo work.

Thanks

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

it does look like the whole site has been ripped off and the articles put through a spinner right? perhaps this is why you are not ranking???

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 2:13 pm

One last thing. Just check the site speeds of the 2 websites and see which one is far better.

Please kindly analyse every aspect before you blame.

Let's finish this inefficient dialogue and progress with more productive sharing.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by wonderpunter

it does look like the whole site has been ripped off and the articles put through a spinner right? perhaps this is why you are not ranking???

**Triple7** · 15 November 2017, 2:26 pm

Originally Posted by hcgroup

Hello,

Only the theme is identical. All of the content is all unique.

And please kindly note that the site you mentioned has been penalized by Google for placing hidden links to .edu sites for blackhat seo.

If you analyze the sites carefully, you will see that my site is much better than that.
Thanks anyway

It's a customized theme or isn't ?

Content is hand-written, I guess, but some pages on one seem to be inspired by other. For example the "About us" page. Or check the "Casino Affiliate Programs" page. It's obvious that one is written on the left screen with the other on the right screen. Also, the expandable boxes-questions are usually the same. Also the New Zealand page.

**hcgroup** · 15 November 2017, 2:41 pm

It is a paid theme. And my coder customized nearly everything. So it is a customized paid theme.

Let's not say "inspiration" but the methodology is the same for SEO.

Regarding the identical pages, it is all about SEO strategy. Same white-hat strategy on both sites with totally unique and completely different content.

Regarding some sub-titles, they are general terms for Q&A and H2 titles. They may be changed for more uniqueness.

The comparison results for both NZ pages is 3% similarity which means NZ page is 97% unique. You may check also: https://www.duplichecker.com/comparison

But if you compare the content of the hidden boxes and bullets, all of the content is unique. Right?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Triple7

It's a customized theme or isn't ?

Content is hand-written, I guess, but some pages on one seem to be inspired by other. For example the "About us" page. Or check the "Casino Affiliate Programs" page. It's obvious that one is written on the left screen with the other on the right screen. Also, the expandable boxes-questions are usually the same. Also the New Zealand page.

**WagerX** · 15 November 2017, 6:28 pm

Originally Posted by elgoog

You can start ranking with a new website after 2 months, it can also take a year, or you will never rank.
Ranking is only very very litlle depending on the age of a domain.
Ranking is only very very very very very little depending on the registration period.
Don't focus to much on these factors, having a good website, good backlinks etc. is far more important

Yes, I agree. The domain age, and registration period are negligible. I read a study in MOZ about that.

Here's a interestingarticle about the age of a link on an older domain.
https://moz.com/blog/age-of-site-and...teboard-friday
I think that might be mroeimportant than domain age on your site.

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