EuroPartners/TitanPartners.es - refuse to pay.

**universal4** · 31 January 2016, 2:28 pm

Please do not let conflicts or differences of opinion with any program group devolve into personal attacks.

A member posted a thread about slow pay/no pay and was paid only after posting the thread.

In addition, although EuroPartners have publicly stated old time affiliates will not be held to current T.O.S. regarding reaching quotas, long time affiliates have been bitten by this term.

Hopefully anyone who has seen issues related to the quota term and those with payment issues will be sorted out, but the fact that the quota term was added later and some affiliates which should NOT be under that term have had issues.

I have been against quotas of any kind and have taken a strong stance against them since around 2005 and since Europartners have stated this quota will not affect any affiliate that signed up prior to the quota going into effect, we should never see any affiliate (meeting the time requirement) affected by it but we do, so there is a flaw there.

Personally I would rather see them just remove the quota term completely and because of it's existence I can not recommend new affiliates promote them based on that term, and wish they would honestly reconsider it.

I currently have been an affiliate of CasinoPartners/EuroPartners for many years and do give them some exposure, and have recently considered increasing their exposure, but based on recent reports of other affiliates that had joined many years ago having their commissions reduced, I am taking a wait-and-see attitude before doing so.

I have recently been re-evaluating many of the programs I promote and been reducing exposure or removing those who do in fact have quotas, and find it interesting that some affiliates that are against quotas overlook them for some programs but not others.

I also used to do that, and have found that in some cases this worked against me over the years.

Maybe a healthy and professional discussion in a thread here at the GPWA, could help them change their mind about the term.

Additional note:
I do not think that anyone has been paid or compensated for posting or bringing more attention tho this thread, but are just posting their opinion about a group they feel passionate enough about where they think it is correct to overlook the quota term.

All of this that I have stated is my own opinion and may or may not be shared by others, but at no time should anyone posting their opinion lead to personal conflicts etc, so please keep this in mind.

Rick
Universal4

**Roulette Zeitung** · 31 January 2016, 2:35 pm

"Tell me please, is it Playtech/Xwise guys asked your to defend it on these thread?"

"But as i see, Leopold [...] try to up this thread again. This is the reason, why i think, that somebody from Playtech/Xwise asked you to do this."

This is the most childish and weakest "argument" in any forum to any topic against people who defending other people if no real argument exist, 10 years ago and also today.

Moreover: It's also - through the back door - a personal attack, a outrageous and disrespectful behaviour, because you claim with this question, that e.g. my honest statement about Uriel in this thread, that came deep from my heart, is a paid campaign and as an unavoidable consequence, nothing but a lie.

My family never received any other money than the revenue share from Europartners and was never asked to write something positive or anything else in any forum or somewhere else. This applies for all our business partners in the last 40 years.

I can prove, that I have defended a lot of people here in this forum and with most of them I have had never any business relationship.

Moonlight Cat, if I remember correctly, then I have defended you too here in the forum:

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

For example, my regarded forum colleague Moonlight Cat (https://www.cpcamcctv.com/member/moonlight-cat) from Russia is a very decent person and projecting a positive image by his flawless behavior. I think very highly of him.

Source: https://www.cpcamcctv.com/forum/current-c...tml#post777724

How much did you pay me for that post!?

How much???

The problem is, that a lot of people are too egocentric, too unworldly or just too stupid to understand what loyalty and comradeship is, perhaps because they don't practice them themselves. It's a lack of social competence and empathy.

I am personally very sensitive with this matter and will not tolerate that you drag my positive statements about other persons with questions like that through the mire. To show you the mirror: Will you start to ask comparable questions about my relationship and my public posts about e.g. Maria Florides or other people? That would be the logical consequence but unmasks the madness of your questions.

Germany is the the land of poets and thinkers and not the land of mediocrity. I am a professional writer and my profession knows exactly the power of words. Writers are powered by emotions, imagination, empathy and by kisses of muse. We don't need to lie for money because we are proud of our openness, transparency and universality. If I can make someone happy with some open and - why not?! - public words, because in my opinion and with my experiences she/he deserve it, then it's also a pleasure for me.

A pleasure without any ulterior motives.
Yes, this is possible.
But not for all of us, because certain maturity and character are essential.

---

"I am ready to send offical claim + all emails to Dirección General de Ordenación del Juego (Spanish Gambling Comission) right now."

The sober result will be dust falling on cedars, because

"This was payment department mistake."

and

"Today i got money from TitanPartners.es on my Skrill account."

Leopold

**Moonlight Cat** · 31 January 2016, 3:22 pm

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

Moonlight Cat, if I remember correctly, then I have defended you too here in the forum:

Leopold, i am far away from idea - that you protect Playtech/Xwise for money of another compensation. And i don't know, why you try to protect this people. Leopold, I am respect you. If you think, that i am say something - against you personally - my deep apologies.

**Roulette Zeitung** · 1 February 2016, 6:39 am

"why you [...] protect this people"

The same reason why I protect other people. It's my firm conviction and unshakeable faith that I will do - until this moment - the right thing.

"Leopold, I am respect you. If you think, that i am say something - against you personally - my deep apologies."

All's well. Everyone can have a bad day.

Leopold

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