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    The basic prediction, that everything is in waves; that after the day comes night and after the night comes day; or that after the liberal periods comes totality and after totality comes liberation - this prediction is always correct. There is just the small problem to recognize what is the topic. But no - not everything will go through unpredicted way. I strongly oppose this. Maybe most of the things yes. But some things are predictable and life is worth of looking for such the things.

    I was also trapped in postmodern hell that I feel from you and I started to look for the way out. The way out for me is money. Not the money itself, I do not give a **** about it. But betting the money gives you a proof if there is at least something predictable or not. If nothing is predictable, you can not make money from bets. If at least something is predictable - you can make your bank. I am not long time betting on sports, but in broader sense on reality. My bank is going up. That means - and I am surprised - that some things are predictable. The predictions are really not extrapolations like to extend inches of horse excrements. The predictions are exactly what I am talking here about. It is a real thing.

    Now we are deep in the totality. It is not just oppression. Totality is a stronger term. It is totality in what we live. Totality is something like oppression where the people do recognize the oppression as normal. The eclipse of oppression is "total", this is why totality has such a name.

    I like Equillibrium really more, because it is straightforward, it has very simple message: you want freedom? You want to be a complete human? Then you have to accept chaos, war, atrocities, tears, poor, rich, power, not-always-consensual sex, often you will harm someone and occasionally you might kill someone. There is no bright side without the dark side.

    Just look what the Western Europe is getting from current Russian philosophy. I am not talking here about Putin, politics etc. I am talking about people like Konstantin Bogomolov (but you can feel this coming from Russia for decades since Tarkovskij [here funny thing - I doubt anyone knows Tarkovskij here, I did not want to mention him here, but right as I deleted the mention about "Tarkovskij" my banker wrote me a message on Telegram about him just out of blue sky]). The point is that people in the west already do live in (non)Equillibrium world: castrated, mentally dull, without genuine and always controversial feelings, "wanting" something without knowing why. This is what we do: https://www.cpcamcctv.com/forum/need-some...tml#post953316

    The Matrix I do not like because the message is lost in the rich story. As I said, I did not see many people who talked about ending and those few who did, said it was weird. The Matrix for them is the battle of Neo, who gets the stupid red pill and who is on the right track to fight the evil. While the real message of Matrix is Zizek talking about the third pill". See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUyrgEtzbvM

    Matrix as whole has the same message as Equillibrium but sadly Matrix leaves too much space for our perverted meme culture to be perceived exactly in the opposite way. Just see the ultra-idiotic US Red Pill Movement, who think they are the real woke people who stand against the leftist woke people. They think they have the reality, while they are opposing just the regular mainstream reality and thus they are helping to keep it alive. (In a way this is kidnapping and distorting the symbol just like when it is about Fight Club and using "Tyler Durden" at borderline conspiracy webpage ZeroHedge).

    So again - while the message of Matrix - "if you want to be free of machines, you have to deliberately accept to be part of them"; is the same as Message of Equillibrium - "if you want Equillibrium, you have to let things flow; included the dark things you do not like", I prefer Equillibrium. Exactly because it is - as you say - shallow and not deep. It is narrow. It is where the beauty is. Because about Matrix anyone can talk and think in postmodern way and the real message is lost (now for sure once RP started to be a thing). With Equillibrium the message is 100% straightforward.
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    I like what you wrote Sherlock. But, in my opinion the message of Matrix is different from that of Equilibrium. The latter is all about emotions. A society where the order is imposed to people by eliminating the emotional manifestation that is a source not only of good things but of bad things as well. Equilibrium tells us that to have a full live we need all sorts of emotions and let things to happen whether these are good or bad. However, bad things are given to us to learn from them and not to accept them. The most famous saints were the worst sinners. This is only way to lead humanity to perfection, while pushing by force a fake society where are no sinners, no saints, no one poor, no one rich, means to put humanity on hold.

    The Matrix comes with the message that material world is an illusion. But the most important, it's telling you that there is a force that wants people think that there's nothing outside material world. Usual Suspects:The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slawete View Post
    I like what you wrote Sherlock. But, in my opinion the message of Matrix is different from that of Equilibrium. The latter is all about emotions. A society where the order is imposed to people by eliminating the emotional manifestation that is a source not only of good things but of bad things as well. Equilibrium tells us that to have a full live we need all sorts of emotions and let things to happen whether these are good or bad. However, bad things are given to us to learn from them and not to accept them. The most famous saints were the worst sinners. This is only way to lead humanity to perfection, while pushing by force a fake society where are no sinners, no saints, no one poor, no one rich, means to put humanity on hold.

    The Matrix comes with the message that material world is an illusion. But the most important, it's telling you that there is a force that wants people think that there's nothing outside material world.
    The topic is different by Matrix and by Equillibrium. The topic of Equillibrium is as you say "emotions".

    By Matrix it can be the "illusion of material world", where in Matrix there is the twist that what is material is taken as unreal and just the non-material world (part of it) is perceived as real.

    However those are just topics that are antagonistic. Both movies are trying to say that the human problem is a false dichotomy.

    There is just an artificial gap between the real world of the last people in matrix and between the world of machines. But the movie saysthat if people have to progress they must be able to accept both worlds at once.

    Analogically: in Equilibrium is not shown that emotions are just good and that for us to be the real people we just have to let all our emotions to develop, because otherwise we are totalitarians. There are at least two transgressional moments in Equilibrium. 1. The totalitarian emperor himself is all the time not taking the drug, so he is feeling, unlike his slaves, thus he bears on himself all supressed human emotions. 2. To defeat the emperor, the hero must stop feeling emotions, just after he started to feel them once he stopped to take the drug. The hero stops feeling the emotions suddenly even without taking the drug. That is the moment, where he is able to fuse the anatagonistic human parts, he gets the superpower for a moment, slays the bad guy etc.

    So for me those movies have the same message about different sides of humanity. We have to be able to accept both sides of humanity. Or both sides of anything.

    This is a bitcoin topic and it diverted really far. But bitcoin really does have the 4 year cycles and during them it always has crazy rides up and crazy rides down. And that is it. Also bitcoin or crypto will change the humanity, but not in a positive way and not in a negative way. It will just bring something that was always here: hard cash. Just from hard immutable cash will develop human non-equality and some kind of feudalism. It is indeed a horror but only from our standpoint. Bitcoin will just reveal that the game for democracy was just a naive childish game. Bitcoin is the violent and necessary chaos that is appearing at the end of the Equlibrium.

    Nothing can be added to that. The devil is real. People who deny it are possesed by him, which is something that people who believe can see clearly, but they are never able to articulate it. But his strength is not only when he is able to persuade people that he does not exist. His strength is also in persuading people who take him too seriously. I do not take things from Christian mythology, that the best saints were the worst sinners originally, and later in their lives they saw their sins, went to church, found the god and the fairy-tale ended, so you can see their heart or penis in the church and faint from that. I think the best saints understood their sins and just lived with those sins just like before. They just felt the incredible pain of their sins, but they were so wise that they knew they have to keep suffering (without asking some proxy Jesus Christ that is used like an outhouse for all sins) until the sins simply vanished. Asking God to be clean or clear is an ugly game of weak people. I do not believe saints were that weak. I am not a Christian, but all Christians I met were people believing in those fairy-tales and they are no different than Red Pill fanatics who are chasing the Reality Of Truth.

    It make no sense to be only emotional or not emotional at all.
    It makes no sense to believe only in material world or only in some aeternal ezoteric world of philosophy.
    It makes no sense to praise the god and not to see that without devil he is not whole.

    It makes no sense to think that bitcoin is bad or good (or that impliactions of bitcoin are bad or good).
    That is the point here. We are forced even more than before to take sides. Bitcoin co-destroyed life of many people. It destroyed lives of nocoiners, who hate BTC (RZ here on forum). But it destroyed life of whales, whose lives are now empty, because they are rich, but it means nothing and they feel it completely unprepared (so they gamble with altcoins and you see the rest).
    Simply cryptos are reality, just like global warming. It exists, it will change things. The change is always perceived by majority as disaster. The minority will get stronger with the change.

    So decide if you want to be the majority or the minority. If you want to play the high game: prepare for the change. Start working with cryptography. Cryptography will be the infrastructure of 21st century and on. The ones who can not secure their data/money/identity will be the slaves. The ones (and their children) who will be able to handle those things will be the masters. Simple as that.

    Download some wallet, and try to experiment with seeds. Try to understand how wallet is created from seed.
    Or try to understand how signatures work by software, it is the same principle.
    Those are elements of infrastructure without 3rd party. Do not be fooled by shills that some 3rd party will set-up interactions without a 3rd party. Once our overregulated society implodes, because it will be impossible to stand on its feet once taxes reach 100% and once you will have to do KYC even when buying banana, the new world will be built (and maybe just now is built) on cryptography with money that will be bitcoin or something like that.
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/05/el-s...l-tender-.html

    Potentially the biggest news in bitcoin history ever. Probably not true yet, but it was at least said.

    (Observe how BTC keeps falling - if you are still nocoiner this is a great entry, just tonight amazon delivered HW wallet to nowhere and I am going to teach some new people how to use it.)
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    Wow! Indeed huge news, I agree with you 100% , 25K to 35K is a great entry.... moving to a decentralized economy...
    The Dark horse is coming....

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    It seems to me that the future belongs to altcoins. So far, with the capitalization of bitcoin, you can still hope for it, but the long-term altcoins are top. Especially functional ones

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    Bitcoin will not be the center of finance as it has been hostile to the state and abandoned by China.

    There is no doubt that the price will rise in the long run,

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    Interesting to see what will happen to Bitcoin and all cryptocurrency market if Tether (USDT) bubble will bursts. If it will (hope it will not) perhaps this is a good idea for the second part of the movie "The Big Short". What do you think, is it possible in the nearest future or whatever future?

    Here are resources to read more about it:

    https://crypto-anonymous-2021.medium...e-f8dcf78a64d3

    https://www.kalzumeus.com/2019/10/28...-and-bitfinex/

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    Another koan by a new "japanse" (im)poster.
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    Something really strange/funny, i was just checking some KW at Google KW tool and typed bitcoin and it comes with no result. thought i made some typo or something but no.
    Tried Ethereum - no problem. got various results. but Bitcoin - it's like the word doesn't exist.
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    You mean in the ads kw tool right. Same for me as of a couple of mins ago. Something may be afoot, although it's possible this happens regularly on odd examples of the millions of different kws, and because it's this one we're all going to naturally be thinking someone is up to no good.

    Normal organic searches are populating OK from different regions.


    PS and on a couple of longer tails too - All keywords were removed. Try different keywords or a URL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaumi View Post
    Something may be afoot, although it's possible this happens regularly on odd examples of the millions of different kws, and because it's this one we're all going to naturally be thinking someone is up to no good.
    Yes, i think so too. Just funny. Never saw such error in ads before.
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    Ok so, i am not sure it's a glitch. although i was sure it is before.
    But now a day later: try searching for Bitcoin, BTC, ETH, Ethereum, Tether and others on https://ads.google.com/.

    Its as if those kw do no exist. I mean etherium with spelling error does exist but Ethereum not.

    That's weird.
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    Google and FB banned crypto ads quite a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Google and FB banned crypto ads quite a long time ago.
    Yeah, and if I interpret it right, supposedly lifted the ban a few months ago......

    https://support.google.com/adspolicy...88110?hl=en-GB

    ...and note this line.......Advertisers must request new Cryptocurrency Exchanges and Wallets certification with Google when the application form is published on 8 July 2021.

    I reckon MMM that this means only certified advertisers will be able to see anything (which you may be of course, but a wild guess says prob not)

    This would seem to be the explanation.

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    ah. right.
    assumed i should see anyway all kw. for example seeing casinos kw in USA when real casino add where banned.
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    This is not a ban, this is a regulation It is much worse.

    Ban is when my wife wanted today to send me a photo of my cute cat, who was sleeping with paw covering his eyes, and the phone showed a warning that the picture would show violence and refused to make the photo.
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    And why do I now feel like I really need to see the cat picture and am very curious to know what the pic was named...LOL
    I know cats are not always innocent, but rarely are they violent while sleeping.

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    BTC cannot become a reserve currency because it was originally created to be something completely different.

    Bitcoin is primarily a peer-to-peer payment system, the purpose of which is not to save money, but to transfer it between users. For doing work (providing computing power to process transactions), miners, as part of this system, receive rewards. But after each halving, the reward drops by half, which is why there is a possibility that one day, keeping the BTC network operational will become financially unprofitable for users. After all, they also need to spend a lot on advanced equipment and electricity, in order to be able to compete with others who want to make money. All this also suggests that over time, the interest of miners in the first cryptocurrency will inevitably begin to fade.

    Bitcoin is a system. A system whose viability is highly dependent on people's interest in it.

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    There is a lot of interest in bitcoin now

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